Dr. Ben Carson does not fit the classic definition of a “birther” (whatever that definition might be). He does not seem to believe, or at least admit to believing, that Barack Obama was born anywhere other than Hawaii. He does, however, support the need for transparency and seems to hint that there may be an issue with Barack Obama’s college applications.
Carson, like many others, seems to have a suspicion that Barack Obama may have claimed to be a foreign national or dual citizen when applying to college, in hopes of benefiting. In a recent interview, Alan Colmes attempted to bait Carson into saying that the birther movement was racially motivated. Here is an audio of that interview courtesy of Birther Report:
Below is a transcript of the interview from littlegreenfootballs.com:
Colmes: For example, I never heard of a president before questioned about his birth certificate, being treated as if he was a foreign, “not one of us,” “he’s a secret Muslim;” doesn’t that arise out of some sort of soft bigotry?
Carson: Well, I would say that the best way to put that to rest is expose everything, including your academic records. Let us know, you know, where did you apply – when you applied to Columbia, from where were you applying?
Colmes: – at Occidental. But he’s released both versions of a birth certificate, and that wasn’t even enough for those who kept criticizing him for not releasing the information. They said, “that’s not real.” They continue to say it wasn’t real.
Carson: But don’t you think, and try to be totally objective in answering this question –
Carson: Don’t you think it is reasonable for people who are seeking public office, or are in public office, to allow people to see what they’re getting, and to expose their past records?
Colmes: (overlap) No that’s fair. What you said is fair, but you just said a few moments ago, would you have the same reaction were it a white person versus a black person, no white president has ever been asked to produce a birth certificate.
Carson: But has there been anybody else who has had a shroud of secrecy around their records like this?
Colmes: Do you have any question about whether he was born in this country?
Carson: I do have questions about where he applied from, when he applied to Columbia.
Colmes: But do you have any questions about whether he was born in the United States?
Carson: That has not been an issue for me.
Colmes: So you know he was born in Hawaii?
Carson: I accept that that’s the case.
Colmes: So what I’m saying is that the birther movement, questioning whether the president was even born here, saying he’s really a Kenyan, he’s really an African, and he’s not even a Christian, he’s really a Muslim, a white president never had to go through that.
Carson: I don’t think that it is racially motivated. I do think that people want to know, because, you know, be objective, you have somebody whose name is Barack Hussein Obama –
Carson: – there is secrecy about some of his records, there’s something that’s been written in the past which I’m sure you’re familiar with that says he was born somewhere else –
Colmes: Do you believe that?
Carson: I don’t believe that’s true, no, but what I’m saying is that there is reason that some people might be suspicious. I’m not one of them.
The “something that’s been written” that Carson refers to is likely the biography from his former book publisher where it was admitted that Barack Obama was born in Kenya, as exposed by Breitbart.com in 2012. After the dust cleared, this was dismissed as some sort of fact-checking error. That is highly unlikely. Either Obama was born in Kenya or wanted people to think he was at the time.
However, for those who are unaware, this is not the only source that has ever claimed that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. Consider this article from 2004:
Upon his election in 2008, some words were said in Kenyan Parliament that are a matter of permanent public record:
In case you are skeptical, you should go back and read the Kenyan Parliament’s own minutes on November 5, 2008, where they openly stated,
“Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country (Kenya). Every other country in this continent is celebrating the Obama win. It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates should show the same excitement, pomp and colour.”
OMG. Someone call Alan Colmes. The Kenyans are racists!
Anyone who claims that there is not sufficient reason for suspicion has simply not been paying attention. There is plenty of evidence to justify a proper investigation, but it is doubtful that congress would ever sanction it.
Remember… Oklahoma Republican congressman Markwayne Mullin basically admitted at a Town Hall meeting that Barack Obama was not eligible to be President. But he also said, “I don’t even give a sh*t.”
Unfortunately, attempts to get this issue heard by courts has not been an easy task either.
That is what America is dealing with. Our elected representatives know that this is worthy of investigation, but simply don’t care.
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